Advice needed on my Rights (turns)

[BluRocket750]

Hey y'all. I've noticed I have absolutely NO problems with all my left handers at slow and higher speeds (I feel complete control) but my rights are a little shaky at the higher speeds. Sometimes I will drift onto the idiot bumpers and then slow down a lot. Is it just because that's the throttle side? Any advice would be helpful. Maybe not enough lean? I dunno you tell me.

[mieff]

try pushing on your right grip more (more countersteer). also, be careful with those "idiot bumps". you don't want to be at a serious lean angle when going over them.

[GPTECHMAN]

what are idiot bumpers? Are you saying that you are drifting into the oncoming traffic lane?

[SilverRider]

Living and riding in America should make you good at turning right. All of the on and off ramps are right handers. Just go hit the freeway ramps at night or early in the morning when there is no traffic. Better to mess up there than on a canyon road with "idiot bumps". The ideal place would be the track but those trips are few and far between. Usually you have one side that feels better than the other. Just work on it and you will get it down.

[Kurt'sSV]

Most people are more comfortable going to their left, regardless of how tight the turn is. I'm not really sure why. I know I sure was back in my street riding days. I think maybe it has to do with when you're going right, your throttle hand is all cramped and it's harder to move. I'm not really sure.

Though after racing at Willow for 3 years, I'm now more comfortable going to my right than my left.

[GPTECHMAN]

Living and riding in America should make you good at turning right. All of the on and off ramps are right handers. Just go hit the freeway ramps at night or early in the morning when there is no traffic. Better to mess up there than on a canyon road with "idiot bumps". The ideal place would be the track but those trips are few and far between. Usually you have one side that feels better than the other. Just work on it and you will get it down.
Im American cause this is america...

I would have to say that that is a really bad idea(insert other names for bad idea). You told him to go when there are no cars, but the times that you stated would be cold and would probably lead him to crash. Secondly on and off ramps are covered in oil and other crap to make them very slick. Thirdly if he crashes who is gonna stop another car from piling into him (insert target fixation). 4thly you crash there and po po will most definitely be there. 5thly GO TO THE TRACK. 6thly if you cant then just read some books and/or have someone you can trust follow to see what you are doing wrong.

[fratellobp]

+1 to Just Practice...preferably at the track. It is common to be more comfortable to one side on the other. In fact, in the last 2 years I have gone from being better to the right, then to the left, and now back to the right...LOL. It switched each time after going to a track which had either mostly lefts or rights...shocking. Convince yourself mentally that you bike can corner equally to either side, and work hard on getting your body and lean angle the same on both sides. Hope it helps.

[BluRocket750]

Thanks for the responses fellas. I think I figured it out though. I was determined to fix this ASAP. My problem was that while pressing with my right hand, my left was not pressing but pulling. So preesing with my right and pulling with my left(very bad combo I know)Went around for a good 30 miles out in Bonsall and Fallbrook where the turns arent too tight but need a little lean and built my confidence up. Keep posting suggestions if you have them. Always willing to learn from y'all :bowdown:

[SilverRider]

Im American cause this is america...

I would have to say that that is a really bad idea(insert other names for bad idea). You told him to go when there are no cars, but the times that you stated would be cold and would probably lead him to crash. Secondly on and off ramps are covered in oil and other crap to make them very slick. Thirdly if he crashes who is gonna stop another car from piling into him (insert target fixation). 4thly you crash there and po po will most definitely be there. 5thly GO TO THE TRACK. 6thly if you cant then just read some books and/or have someone you can trust follow to see what you are doing wrong.
Your right. Just avoid all free way on and off ramps. I repeat don't use them. Get real dude. I didn't say to take the turn at 80mph. If you are so afraid of turning on and off free way ramps then cruise the car. To bad we don't live in a little rubber world where you can just bounce off of everything without getting hurt. What fun is that. San diego isn't cold. Most people that are from anywhere but SD will tell you what cold really is. Ask me sometime and I will fill you in. Later.

[GPTECHMAN]

Your right. Just avoid all free way on and off ramps. I repeat don't use them. Get real dude. I didn't say to take the turn at 80mph. If you are so afraid of turning on and off free way ramps then cruise the car. To bad we don't live in a little rubber world where you can just bounce off of everything without getting hurt. What fun is that. San diego isn't cold. Most people that are from anywhere but SD will tell you what cold really is. Ask me sometime and I will fill you in. Later.
I do cruise my truck, and no san diego isnt that cold, I know as well, but its cold enough to crash from it. You also dont have to take a turn at 80 to have anything bad happen, but Im sure you knew that. I will take your advice you are right. I was gonna run some clovers this morning to work on my rights, form, throttle control, trail braking and to set up my suspension. :thumbsup:

[Termin8r]

I think most people, including myself, are less comfortable turning right because we ride on the right side of the road. This means blind turns are less forgiving being that you're on the inside of the road vs. the outside.

My problem was that while pressing with my right hand, my left was not pressing but pulling. So preesing with my right and pulling with my left(very bad combo I know)

I didn't understand this part. You indicated that your left hand was not pressing but pulling. I'd think pulling would be better than pressing as pressing would be contradictory to countersteering. In my opinion, learn to relax the left hand/arm through your right turns instead of either pushing or pulling. Just push "forward not down" with your right hand to get your bike to lean angle necessary to make the turn (which depends on how much you hang off).

Your right. Just avoid all free way on and off ramps. I repeat don't use them. Get real dude. I didn't say to take the turn at 80mph. If you are so afraid of turning on and off free way ramps then cruise the car. To bad we don't live in a little rubber world where you can just bounce off of everything without getting hurt. What fun is that. San diego isn't cold. Most people that are from anywhere but SD will tell you what cold really is. Ask me sometime and I will fill you in. Later.

Dude, don't be a wise ass. Sean (GPTech) is right. Practicing on offramps was an absolutely lame suggestion. Too many unknown variable including oil, dew, cars, etc., that would make it hazardous. And at night? :rolleyes:

[brakstad]

So preesing with my right and pulling with my left(very bad combo I know)Went around for a good 30 miles out in Bonsall and Fallbrook where the turns arent too tight but need a little lean and built my confidence up.

Not sure I understand this either... Pressing with the right and pulling with the left is the right thing to do (for me anyway) when you want to turn it quickly. Especially when you have a fat pig of a bike like mine :errf: For street riding (i.e. not as agressive) just pushing on the right is usually sufficient. The key is to relax and look all the way through the turn. When you don't have the confidence, you probably tense up a bit, start target fixating on the center line, and that's why you end up there...

[SilverRider]

Dude, don't be a wise ass. Sean (GPTech) is right. Practicing on offramps was an absolutely lame suggestion. Too many unknown variable including oil, dew, cars, etc., that would make it hazardous. And at night? :rolleyes:

Well I am not sure where you are from but we have lights on our on ramps and off ramps. I am not afraid of riding on a lit freeway with no cars around at night. But some people I guess might be afraid of the dark. There is a chance oil is on every street you're on. The free way has cars that cruise on them and cars have oil, hence it might be probable. I have many off ramps by my house that are perfectly clean. And I am curious what you do when you need to get on to a different free way. Do you get off on a side road and then find an entrance that has a straight of way? Get real. I am not being a smart ass. Some of you guys think you have all of the answers to everything. I didn't say take a turn at an excessive speed. You don't need to go fast to lear how to turn comfortably. The question that was asked was not, How do I make a right hand turn at 80mph. So relax and chill. It is called street riding for a reason. Not everyone rides on a track. Not everyone wants to be a racer. Some people just want to ride the streets. And guess what. The on and off ramps are part of that. Later.

[spewmonkey]

Well I am not sure where you are from but we have lights on our on ramps and off ramps. I am not afraid of riding on a lit freeway with no cars around at night. But some people I guess might be afraid of the dark. There is a chance oil is on every street you're on. The free way has cars that cruise on them and cars have oil, hence it might be probable. I have many off ramps by my house that are perfectly clean. And I am curious what you do when you need to get on to a different free way. Do you get off on a side road and then find an entrance that has a straight of way? Get real. I am not being a smart ass. Some of you guys think you have all of the answers to everything. I didn't say take a turn at an excessive speed. You don't need to go fast to lear how to turn comfortably. The question that was asked was not, How do I make a right hand turn at 80mph. So relax and chill. It is called street riding for a reason. Not everyone rides on a track. Not everyone wants to be a racer. Some people just want to ride the streets. And guess what. The on and off ramps are part of that. Later.

+1, Learning to deal with oil, sand, cagers, and other idiots on bikes is part of street riding, if you plan to ride a lot on the street you need to be prepared. I've learned not to target fixate but sometimes I see sand in or other stuff in a corner (Pinecone that I tried to kick out of the line because we just passed very inexperienced rider who may target fixate, didn't kick it as much as hit it with my lower cracking it hence the sticker) and I go for it just to see if I can react correctly to what it's going to do to me because sometimes sand and other scary stuff (night time) is unavoidable. You can't practice being seen by a cager on the track along with a hundred other things that you won't see on the track.
BTW some times I'm a smart ass on here, hopefully you all can recognize and not be 'butt-sore' about it.

[Robert]

The original thread was that he took right handers at high speeds and felt shakey and wanted to know what to do, to correct such a problem. I do not recommend you take any right hand turns at high speeds on any public road just for practice, you don't want to make a mistake and end up in a guard rail, or tree, or another car. If you want to hone in on those skills my advice is go to a track day and spend a day and practice it. It is far cheaper to pay for a track day. than takeing a spill on your bike. Alot of seat time on your bike will also get you more comfortable turning in any direction, but take your time and speed just naturally develop as your technique gets better.

[BluRocket750]

Thanks for the much needed input guys. To clarify what I was saying earlier, I press on the right handlebar and pull with the left....pull into my body so the wheel was actually turning a little left while I was trying to go right. I agree with all of you about practicing more at the track but I got one little problem...I'm a Noobie at trackdays, I wouldn't know where to start. I did some more riding this morning before the storm comes in and found that if I relax and press with my right and keep my left loose my problem is solved. Thanks for that bit of advice.

[Dapittbull69]

being a newb to the track shouldnt be a deterrent...that is why they have different levels for different riders...don't be afraid of the track!!!

[fratellobp]

+1 Get to the track ! Save the $$$ if you have to and find a way. I guarantee you will be so glad you did. Also, keep asking good questions...that helps, too.