Body position

[DBame]

whenever i get back from palomar my legs are pretty sore, thights specifically. Part of this is definatly because i have pretty weak legs, and lately i have stopped touching knee and focusing more on upper body position (only hang one cheek off at a time), trying to keep my shoulders straight and trying to sit further back in the seat and also trying to relax as much as possible.

lately (i think cuase my new 675 has high seat) my wrists get pretty sore. So what gives? Do i need to get adjustable pegs? Im sure my legs will get more use to the workout, but what about my wrists? is it a combination of me being 6'2 and having a tall seat hight?

how much do you guys (preferrably people with significant experience) use your legs? When your leaned over mid corner is your inside leg completely relaxed?

latest picture of my body positioning
http://rickclemson.com/Photo_Details.asp?PhotoID=8343&EventID=113

[GPTECHMAN]

whenever i get back from palomar my legs are pretty sore, thights specifically. Part of this is definatly because i have pretty weak legs, and lately i have stopped touching knee and focusing more on upper body position (only hang one cheek off at a time), trying to keep my shoulders straight and trying to sit further back in the seat and also trying to relax as much as possible.

lately (i think cuase my new 675 has high seat) my wrists get pretty sore. So what gives? Do i need to get adjustable pegs? Im sure my legs will get more use to the workout, but what about my wrists? is it a combination of me being 6'2 and having a tall seat hight?

how much do you guys (preferrably people with significant experience) use your legs? When your leaned over mid corner is your inside leg completely relaxed?

latest picture of my body positioning
http://rickclemson.com/Photo_Details.asp?PhotoID=8343&EventID=113
which part is sore, your groin or more your quads?

The legs will get used to it and so will your wrists. If you start using your legs to grip the tank and use your back and stomach to take the weight off of your wrist then that will help eleviate some of the discomfort.

I have a lot of weight on my inside peg. But am working on getting my outer leg wedged into the tank to help free up my upper body and inside foot pressure. Lots of debate amongst this topic but it should be what feels more comfortable...you are afterall getting used to a new bike.

The seat height position means nothing as you are not standing up and down while riding.

My legs are always sore after trackdays.

[DBame]

the part thats sore is the same muscle that would be sore after doing squats. and what i meant bout the seat being high... its more that the seat feels high and the bars low. so when i break i feel like im really high up, esp a problem going downhill. thats why i try to sit further back so my body is at a better angle to hold my wieght, but when i sit back my legs dont feel right (to far forward) i might end up getting adjustable pegs

[shaggy]

Stomp Grip...solve half your problems right there.

[Lost]

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+1

One thing that helps me is to drape my arm over the tank to take a little weight off of my legs.

I think you need to get to a track day to figure out your body positioning. Body positioning is differen from turn to turn so its kinda hard to judge without video or in person.

[argh6]

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+1

One thing that helps me is to drape my arm over the tank to take a little weight off of my legs.

I think you need to get to a track day to figure out your body positioning. Body positioning is differen from turn to turn so its kinda hard to judge without video or in person.

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+2 Stomp grip is great!

Yeah, like Aaron said, going to the track is by far the best way to fine tune your form. Being able to develop a rythum will help you in understanding what effects what. Come out to a Take It 2 The Track event and we can work with you on it!

[JDMDARK]

bikram's yoga once/ twice a week.

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bikram's yoga once/ twice a week.

hahaha...

my thighs used to get sore alot from weighing the outside pegs, keeping me from slipping. then i switched from being on the balls of my feet to the soles and it instantly gave me plenty more leverage without the strain on my legs.

[GPTECHMAN]

Stomp Grip...solve half your problems right there.:stupid:

[Lost]

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[xiaoyin]

Well. I'm still a very fresh newb... but.. I'd go with everyone else and say stomp grips. Once I got mine on the 675, my legs took a lot longer to get tired (esp. once I started hanging off the bike at the track)... Otherwise I'd be sliding all over the place - knees couldn't get a good grip on the tank cuz of the narrowness.

On top of that, I'm on the balls of my feet and use those when weighing the pegs entering a turn instead of the arch of my foot.. which made a huge difference for me too.

[adobo]

your wrists shouldn't be sore, but your legs should be.

if you are hanging off correctly, you should already be "weighting" the outside peg because your outside leg is what is mainly holding you on the bike... you should press down on the outside peg with the ball of your foot and dig your knee into the tank. moving your butt further back in the seat will help put your knee in a more comfortable spot on the tank.

also try and rest your outside arm along the tank... your arms should be completely relaxed when hanging off, so relaxed that you should be able to almost let go of the handlebars. your arms should be able to move freely/wiggle around.

dont try and worry about keeping your shoulders straight, you should really try and point your shoulders towards the inside of the turn, this will make you move your head off the bike and in the correct position. Your butt should follow suit, don't worry about hanging one or two cheeks off. if you're head and shoulders are in the correct place your butt will move off the seat.

dont worry about sticking your knee out as far as possible, i always see people worrying more about how low they can stick their knee out and they have horrible form. concentrate on the points i mentioned above and just stick your knee out when leaned over and it will touch if you are low enough. You are a lot taller than me so your knee should drag much sooner. When i drag knee my toe sliders are not far behind, then my footpegs. so i really know i'm at the limit when i drag.

your legs should really be tired after a trackday, i think that doing cardio workouts along with low weight high rep squats would help any racer.

[DBame]

cant wait to try the new ideas. i mostly weight the inside peg and never use my outter leg to hold me, but ill play with it and see if it helps. I remember scraping toe and peg feelers and having it be a little scary since alot of my wieght was on the inside.

[adobo]

put your bike on front and rear stands and practice your body position their, not on the street.

[DBame]

wouldnt it tip over? i havent tried, but it doesnt seem that sturdy. i do have something i could do though, like that... i think

[Lost]

wouldnt it tip over? i havent tried, but it doesnt seem that sturdy. i do have something i could do though, like that... i think

Have someone hold the bike. Careful tho, it can still fall over on the stands with someone holding it.

A pocket bike or mini bike is great to practice.

[adobo]

wouldnt it tip over? i havent tried, but it doesnt seem that sturdy. i do have something i could do though, like that... i think

i've dont it on my bike, i guess i was lucky it didn't tip over =)

[itr835]

Im just digging around bored at work...

I say Take It 2 The Track! or you can take classes like:

www.classrides.com / www.starmotorcycle.com / www.superbikeschool.com

[itr835]

Oh yeah, counter-steering will help you lean your bike over without having to use your legs too much and it should also help take some load off your wrists IF you wrestle your bike around to get it leaned over. Dont worry about hanging your butt off as many have already recommended, drop your shoulder, look into the turn and it will come to you...I'm still working on it, I'm just sharing what I've learned so far and what I put into practice at every TrackDay. :)