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CjrJAM
01-15-2004, 04:35 PM
Anyone have any experience cutting plastics for frame sliders? Chuck and I put em on his bike but I insisted he did all the cutting, I was too scared. So now is my turn and I can't bring myself to cut em. HELP :confused: anyone?

dre_2k2_f4i
01-15-2004, 04:41 PM
Hmm, I'm nowhere in the area. You just gotta suck it up and do it. I used masking tape on the plastic when I started the whole, and used a hole saw designed for tile (it was more like a sandpaper edge, then a saw edge).

Ikazuchi
01-15-2004, 04:44 PM
Hole saw and putty method works wonders....if you want to bring it by I'll do it no problem. Almost no gap on mine.

CjrJAM
01-15-2004, 04:45 PM
Thanks Dre, heading over to lee's anyone wanna go?

CjrJAM
01-15-2004, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by Ikazuchi
Hole saw and putty method works wonders....if you want to bring it by I'll do it no problem. Almost no gap on mine.

Yeah marc that sounds good, the no gap theory is what I am looking for, so when you free?

Ikazuchi
01-15-2004, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by CjrJAM
Yeah marc that sounds good, the no gap theory is what I am looking for, so when you free?

Saturday after the ride work for you? Around 2pm?

I'll PM you my address and phone.

Arnold_R1
01-15-2004, 11:22 PM
Question, how did you make the hole before drilling. I put paint on the tip of the screw then fitted the fairing over to make a dot on the inside. I might have to do it on my race fairings when they come in so if someone has an easier method, do tell!

GPTECHMAN
01-15-2004, 11:31 PM
so arnold, marc is talking about the putty method on the inside of the fairing right? the hard thing is that you cant really bolt on the fairing with the frame slider under it and guage it all that well..., so like what you said I did the same just a litle more ghetto rigged and used a little pilot screw in the center of my mark? I also heard....a la BOD, that you shouldn't make the hole too flush cause it doesnt allow for the frame slider to flex if and when you do use those things....so you might wanna keep that in mind....


Oh if you got race fairings could you just line'em up? and make your maeks that way?

Arnold_R1
01-15-2004, 11:38 PM
Originally posted by GPTECHMAN
so arnold, marc is talking about the putty method on the inside of the fairing right? the hard thing is that you cant really bolt on the fairing with the frame slider under it and guage it all that well..., so like what you said I did the same just a litle more ghetto rigged and used a little pilot screw in the center of my mark? I also heard....a la BOD, that you shouldn't make the hole too flush cause it doesnt allow for the frame slider to flex if and when you do use those things....so you might wanna keep that in mind....

Well how much is "too flushed"? Remember I told you about the pen technique! Classic!


Oh if you got race fairings could you just line'em up? and make your maeks that way?

Haven't ordered them yet! Still waiting for http://www.catalystracingcomposites.com/ to complete the 2000-2001 race fairings. Either this week or next! I could do it that way but the race fairings are two piece as opposed to 4 on the OEM versions.

pasta fredo
01-16-2004, 08:31 AM
Originally posted by Ikazuchi
Hole saw and putty method works wonders....if you want to bring it by I'll do it no problem. Almost no gap on mine.

Gotta ask. What's the putty for? I know I sound like an idiot but I just have to know.

deathblow
01-16-2004, 08:32 AM
Originally posted by pasta fredo
Gotta ask. What's the putty for? I know I sound like an idiot but I just have to know.

You put the putty on the inside of the fairing approximately where you think the engine bolt will be. You then mount the fairing with the engine bolt sticking out a little and it will make a depression into the putty. The center of this depression is where you should make a pilot hole for the hole saw.

dre_2k2_f4i
01-16-2004, 12:22 PM
Because pasta_fredo is a visual person:
http://www.zmoe.com/images/frame_slider06a.jpg
from: http://www.zmoe.com/sliders.html

Ikazuchi
01-16-2004, 12:26 PM
Originally posted by GPTECHMAN
so arnold, marc is talking about the putty method on the inside of the fairing right? the hard thing is that you cant really bolt on the fairing with the frame slider under it and guage it all that well..., so like what you said I did the same just a litle more ghetto rigged and used a little pilot screw in the center of my mark? I also heard....a la BOD, that you shouldn't make the hole too flush cause it doesnt allow for the frame slider to flex if and when you do use those things....so you might wanna keep that in mind....


Oh if you got race fairings could you just line'em up? and make your maeks that way?

Yeah...I lined mine up just fine...there's a little bit if room around the slider...it's not like it fits exactly flush.

On my race plastics I used the pen/dremil method...not quite as good looking. Should've taken a few shots to steady my hand first :-p

deathblow
01-16-2004, 01:29 PM
When I did my F4i, I just used the foam on the inside of the fairing. The engine bolt made a nice depression to use as a starting point. Of course, since it was the first time, I had to enlarge the hole a little, if you know what I mean ;) .

pasta fredo
01-16-2004, 04:18 PM
Thanks for the clarification!

Ikazuchi
01-16-2004, 04:20 PM
Ceez - you coming by this weekend?

Check your PM!

TreAdidas
01-16-2004, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by CjrJAM
Yeah marc that sounds good, the no gap theory is what I am looking for, so when you free?

Yeah ya see here is the problem with theories... they have to be proven.... of course this means they coudl be disproven... I'm alla buot the little gap postulate!

CjrJAM
01-16-2004, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by Ikazuchi
Ceez - you coming by this weekend?

Check your PM!
Sir yes sir, got your pm thanks! See ya at the ride than at your crib. :cool:

CjrJAM
01-16-2004, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by TreAdidas
Yeah ya see here is the problem with theories... they have to be proven.... of course this means they coudl be disproven... I'm alla buot the little gap postulate!
All I want is a little gap.

CjrJAM
01-16-2004, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by CjrJAM
All I want is a little gap.
Hold on a second that didn't come out right. What I meant is I want as little as a gap as possible, between the slider and the fairings. :eek:

cbrsmurf
01-17-2004, 03:47 AM
Originally posted by CjrJAM
All I want is a little gap.


:eek:



u wusses, just ride w/o your fairings

CjrJAM
01-17-2004, 05:18 AM
Originally posted by cbrsmurf
:eek:
u wusses, just ride w/o your fairings
LOL :rockon: Tell em Jeff

deathblow
01-17-2004, 10:10 AM
Originally posted by cbrsmurf
:eek:



u wusses, just ride w/o your fairings

That would kill the main function of a frame slider! In my experience, frame sliders work okay, but work very good when the clip-ons and rearsets hold up also, this creates a sort-of triangle for you bike to slide on.

TreAdidas
01-17-2004, 11:04 AM
Originally posted by deathblow
That would kill the main function of a frame slider! In my experience, frame sliders work okay, but work very good when the clip-ons and rearsets hold up also, this creates a sort-of triangle for you bike to slide on.

Agreed... althought I found that my stock exhaust can worked quite well to complete this triabgle as well... but then again maybe it was my leg too... ::laughs::

Ikazuchi
01-17-2004, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by CjrJAM
Sir yes sir, got your pm thanks! See ya at the ride than at your crib. :cool:

Hey! Did you miss the part when I said "Saturday"?

I'll be out in the morning on Sunday...should be back by 2pm ...but I'm not sure. Check your PM.

kc1717
01-17-2004, 10:39 PM
well you can always add more sliders

i have sliders on the bars, swingarm end, swing arm piviot point, as well as engine case.


here is a nice pic so you can see the 4 on that side

CjrJAM
01-17-2004, 11:25 PM
Originally posted by Ikazuchi
Hey! Did you miss the part when I said "Saturday"?

I'll be out in the morning on Sunday...should be back by 2pm ...but I'm not sure. Check your PM.
Dude I apologize, I was thinking you meant Sunday. See what happens when you drink too much. But is there really such a thing?:shifty:

deathblow
01-18-2004, 04:12 AM
Originally posted by CjrJAM
Dude I apologize, I was thinking you meant Sunday. See what happens when you drink too much. But is there really such a thing?:shifty:

There is no such animal.

Padu
07-19-2004, 08:56 PM
Just got my new babe, an 04 sixxer, and I need to put frame sliders on her... Some questions:

-Should I cut or use the adaptor?
-What the disadvantages of using the adaptor?
-How to cut the hole?

Never did it, but I can imagine the problems I'll face if I chose to cut the plastics:

1) Finding the exact hole center and make the pilot hole
Here's how I imagine to do it: put the bike on a stand without the plastics, use a laser (the cheap ones that you cay buy at fry's) to mark that spot from a distance. Laser must be completely perpendicular to the bolt.

2) If the laser is still at the exact same location and the bike didn't move, then mark the location for the pilot hole with the plastics back on.

3) Drill the pilot hole at marked location

4) Cut the hole leaving 1 or 2mm around the slider. I imagine that if the plastic if too tight around the slider, any crashes may hurt the bodywork if the slider bends

Do you think it may work well?