Wants to get a "real" ride

[SilverBird]

Hi All,
I've been riding for ages but mainly owned scooters. I rode sometimes firend's 400-500 sports bikes. I am now interested in getting myself a real bike. Maybe I'll find good advice here. I narrowed down my options to two groups. One is a sport bikes such as CBR11000RR, R1 and GSXR1000. The other one mor eliek touring bikes such as Busa or ZX12R. Not sure what to do yet but maybe I should go to dealers and sit on them to find out how they feel like. I am kinda short so I have to check if I can safely touch the ground. My current bike is a Honda Silverwing. I joined this group to get some expert advice on my new bike decision.
Thanks...
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[CBR250RR]

WELCOME :cool:

How tall are you? My friend is 5'2" and she is comfortable on a Superhawk...

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What do you mean by "real" bike???

[LiN Mae]

I'm 5'2" and I've sat on a CBR1000rr. It's tall for me but I can flat foot it on one leg. Generally, liter bikes are a little tall for me. I've learned though that your total height doesn't always matter because your inseam might be longer than someone who is taller. I recently traded my shaved seat for this guy's stock seat because he said he was on his toes with both legs down. The dude is 5'7"! Imagine my confusion. :confused: The moral of the story? Definitely sit on the bikes and see how it fits you... :thumbsup:

[SilverBird]

What do you mean by "real" bike???

Not a scooter. :thumbsup:

[maestro]

Welcome...and is there any reason why you only listed litre bikes..especially when its your first real bike and your worried about being to short?

[05GSXR600]

I've learned though that your total height doesn't always matter because your inseam might be longer than someone who is taller.
Very true indeed! As I was shopping around, I would get the question well how tall are you; when they should have been asking what is your inseam because the seat height on this bike is xyz inches. :thumbsup:

[SilverBird]

Why not take advantage of what's available out there? I am sure it will be much more fun to ride a bike like those which can easily go over 100+. No problem. It prolly helps to evade when needed, you know what I mean? :)

[casper13]

Why not take advantage of what's available out there? I am sure it will be much more fun to ride a bike like those which can easily go over 100+. No problem. It prolly helps to evade when needed, you know what I mean? :)


Uh you can go over a hundred on a 250 and "evade" not so good intentions I see. Onother piece of road pizza

[Termin8r]

Why not take advantage of what's available out there? I am sure it will be much more fun to ride a bike like those which can easily go over 100+. No problem. It prolly helps to evade when needed, you know what I mean? :)

These kind of statements are gonna get ya flamed, bro. A 600 can easily do 100+ probably even in 2nd gear. Don't get caught up in getting the biggest baddest thing out there as your first bike. A good rider on a 600 will easily outrun a new rider on a liter bike; especially on the twisties. Read the article in Cycle World where they compared 600s and see how with a couple mods only, they had the ZX6 doing under 10 second quarter miles. Don't be another statistic, bro and be realistic. Even a 600 can be pretty fast for a first bike, but if you ride with safety in mind and not just being the fastest, you'll be on this site for a long time.

[EIREANN]

I would like to state for the record that my sv650s can easily go over 100
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It just me that can't :squid:

[LiN Mae]

I would like to state for the record that my sv650s can easily go over 100
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It just me that can't :squid:

Right on, girlie. :thumbsup:

[CBR250RR]

Anything over 600-700cc's is just a gas guzzler... hahaha

[MrCrashRR]

seriously,...i have a cbr1000rr, and while i love it more than any bike ive ever ridden, it is quite purpose built, and not the most enjoyable on the streets.

stick to something you can learn with, then add to the stable.

hell, im 6'7 230 and my daily ride is a 45 hp KTM, and i have had it over 100.

i mean, there is an added ammout of saftey in having a bike that can accelerate so quickly in any gear, but you also have to deal with things like

-throttle in a turn will break the rear end loose,....if you dont know how to control this and stay calm, it will **** you.
-weight you have to turn harder, break harder, work harder to ride the larger bikes,....it may work for some and not for others, but it is not as care free as something with less weight and power.
-going 150+ while tons of fun, if you dont have restraint, you can easily find yourself going 150+ on the way to work every day.....can get expensive
-tires.....ive gone through a set in under 1000 miles,....average 3000 for a liter bike 5-8000 for a 600.
-wheelies,.....personally i fell if you cant do them, then you have no place on a bike as powerful as a new 1000.

granted, buy what you want, and for only 2000 more up front is seams to be an easy decision, but the costs are much greater because of tires, and parts are usually a bit more too.


i would stick with something you can really throw around while riding instead of being timid to even rev the bike over 4000.

and lots of other things, so if you have any questions just ask.

if you want the looks of a SS start with a 636,( stright up stupid fast bike, that needs to be respected, but easier to ride than a 1000)

or if you have to have a big bore, maybe a 959 hornet? i love them, easy to ride and the old 900RR based engine.

and as far as the busa or zx,......well i think you would know if you had to have those bikes, as they seem to be a nitch group, and if you are just courious, then they are probably not for you, and for sure not with no real riding experience.

[Crayziness]

Uh you can go over a hundred on a 250


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It just me that can't :squid:

:werd: hehehe

[Crash716]

are you looking to have the fastest bike out there or looking for something to have allot of fun on?

as MrCrash stated....1000 although fun to stare at and dangerous in a straight line are barely...and i mean maybe a second or two a lap faster on most tracks than a good 600.

Most of a bikes speed comes from a good setup and a VERY capable rider. Look at Wanderer/ LvStyles and allot (sorry if i forgot to mention any of you other 600 guys) with 600's that SMOKE most the guys with 1000's on the twisties and tracks.

Either way...your money, just beaware... race-bred streetbikes are not scooters or something to be taken lightly.

Ps...sorry for the lecture perhaps we may all underestimate your abilities.

[SilverBird]

and as far as the busa or zx,......well i think you would know if you had to have those bikes, as they seem to be a nitch group, and if you are just courious, then they are probably not for you, and for sure not with no real riding experience.

What kinda "nitch"? How 'bout the Blackbird? I understand it's an older gentelmen's bike with better manners. It is not the fastest but still out there I guess... After all, it's a Honda! Better be good. :thumbsup:

[Captain G Force]

i got a bandit 1200 for my first street bike, its pretty tame for a big bore bike, but can still misbehave if you give her some gas. its pretty fun, and it has the added bonus of being a naked bike, no farings to scratch if you drop it (those are freaking expensive to replace on SS bikes). just another suggestion for a bike, but go with what ya like.

[Punani]

just get a busa thats a REAL bike don't listen to these guys/guys ther just mad that they cant get one.........muahahHahahahahah

[SilverBird]

just get a busa thats a REAL bike don't listen to these guys

I have decided and already found my dream bike. It will be good enough for some time to come while I gain more experience. It looks like a mellow cat bike anyway.


My cat bike (http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-4/1002604/hellokitty.jpg)

[EIREANN]

I have decided and already found my dream bike. It will be good enough for some time to come while I gain more experience. It looks like a mellow cat bike anyway.


My cat bike (http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-4/1002604/hellokitty.jpg)

:roflmao:

omg uh oh pink stallion might have a run for her money !

[kawboy]

I have decided and already found my dream bike. It will be good enough for some time to come while I gain more experience. It looks like a mellow cat bike anyway.

Looks like someone is bored at work and is trying to get a flame war started.

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There's no way this dude/chick is serious.

[Termin8r]

I have decided and already found my dream bike. It will be good enough for some time to come while I gain more experience. It looks like a mellow cat bike anyway.


My cat bike (http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-4/1002604/hellokitty.jpg)

If you need help getting it home, I hear Maestro may be up to the task.

[teamgreenzx7r]

If you need help getting it home, I hear Maestro may be up to the task.
But I believe this time he will be charging by the miles..

[EvilKawi]

Dude, get your flame suit on cause this site is not about encouraging you to get liter bike as your first bike.

As Arnold said, “It’s the rider not the bike.” :thumbsup:

[deathblow]

These kind of statements are gonna get ya flamed, bro. A 600 can easily do 100+ probably even in 2nd gear. Don't get caught up in getting the biggest baddest thing out there as your first bike. A good rider on a 600 will easily outrun a new rider on a liter bike; especially on the twisties. Read the article in Cycle World where they compared 600s and see how with a couple mods only, they had the ZX6 doing under 10 second quarter miles. Don't be another statistic, bro and be realistic. Even a 600 can be pretty fast for a first bike, but if you ride with safety in mind and not just being the fastest, you'll be on this site for a long time.


Very well said!

With that in mind. Most, if not all of the 600s today have everything their literbike counterparts have. USD forks, braced swingarms, radial brakes, etc... With the only difference being he displacement of the motor, you have a bike that pretty much is just as fast, lighter, cheaper, and turns easier. You have to keep those benefits in mind.

[SilverBird]

Looks like someone is bored at work and is trying to get a flame war started.

:flame:

There's no way this dude/chick is serious.

My feelings are almost hurt. :cry:
My thinking is if I get a bike with the "potential", I take it easy initially or even get a restricter like the ones available in UK which limits the output to "learners limit" and add my own smarts to it so I'll be OK. Since, also, the paint scheme makes it less threathining to others therefore no one will challenge me at the red lights like they do with my scooter now.

I hope to get to the Wed bike meet this time so you'll get to see my scooter. Whoever volunteers to ride my Kitty bike home will get a sodapop from me (and beer whenever not riding). My scooter is a silver one with no stickers or eyesore paint designs on it. Clean and simple...

[SilverBird]

Dude, get your flame suit on cause this site is not about encouraging you to get liter bike as your first bike.

As Arnold said, “It’s the rider not the bike.” :thumbsup:

Why not? I always get 32oz soda at McD and handle it at once. Why couldn't handle one liter or 1.3?

Agree, it is the rider not the bike... as long as there are at least two alive brain cells are bouncing around in the cavity and occasionaly colliding to create a spark and the signal is relayed to the muscles which control your wrist, no problem, right?
:thumbsup:

May not be a good taste example but just to keep in mind, the legend Joey Dunlop died in a crash with a 125cc bike while riding for a charity event few years ago after winning one of the most challenging road races (Isle of Man) so many times in his racing career.
What I am saying is size doesn't matter whne it comes to "dangers" of motorcycling.

[GPTECHMAN]

I totally agree man... I think you should get the BUSA, keep this on the downlow, but I think we can TURBO and NITROUS the MUGGAFUGGER!!!

Dude, its all about knowing that at any second no matter who it is, that you can just whack the throttle wide open and OWN EVERYONE!

[GPTECHMAN]

Why not? I always get 32oz soda at McD and handle it at once. Why couldn't handle one liter or 1.3?



SUPERSIZE ME SUCKA :thumbsup:

[Lost]

If you get a larger bike you will never learn to exploit the bike. Do your self a favor and get a sv650 or a 600cc sportbike. This will enable you to learn how to properly ride and take a bike to its limits. I tell you this from experience. Once you have mastered the 600cc bike (which you will be faster on than a 1k), you can upgrade to a 1000cc bike. Most likely this learning process will take several years. Many riders find that they will always be faster on a 600cc bike.


Busas and cbr1100xx will never be faster in the turns than the modern 1k's. They are for drag racing and rather boring bikes imho.

[Unstealth Ninja]

600's are plenty to start off on....even older ones. You can get them vertical if you really want to. Before I got my first bike I thought the 600s were gonna be too slow or not have enough power, man was I wrong... :errf: Get whatever is gonna put a smile on your face... :cheers:

[SilverBird]

Busas and cbr1100xx will never be faster in the turns than the modern 1k's.
I presume depending on who is riding them makes all the difference. In an other than track environment, my guess is that you couldn't pick one over other just based on "fastness" while having 140 to 170 ponies between your legs.

They are for drag racing and rather boring bikes imho.
Boring??? Busa is definetly no boring because you never know when it is going to catch fire or subframe is going to brake but I understand CBR1100 is boring because it never breaks or needs any attention to it besides lubing the chain and changing the tyres.
:)

[GPTECHMAN]

BUSAs are the best...I love my busa...get one, mines' only caught fire once and I just recently "braked" my subframe.....crazy

[Marc Leonard]

I agree 100% with termin8r, I am what you might call me a bigger man (6'2", and weigh in at 215) I have started noticing the flaws with the scenario of "Fat man on a little bike" but never in the motor or with speed. 150 mph is too fast for any road, although tempting, highly not good when faced with a bad situation. The only things i have noticed have to do with the smaller bikes suspension, and even then, a little tweaking straightened it right up. Last but not least although 600s are "small bikes" keep in mind when full of fluids, that little bike is going to weigh over 400 lbs. Ive seen quite a few friends let the weight of the bike get the best of them resulting in the precious plastic lying on the not so precious asphalt. Things to think of before buying. :holymoly:

[SilverBird]

BUSAs are the best...I love my busa...get one, mines' only caught fire once and I just recently "braked" my subframe.....crazy
So..., now I know you are the "spelling-bee-cop" here it appears. :)
I didn't hurt your feelings by pointing out the obvious well known fact about the EyesoreBusa, did I? :cry: